What will I do if the market drops? Hold on for dear life. Look to my wife for strength. She has nerves of steel. Vanguard has an excellent site looking at this situation: Remember, this has happened before.
Vanguard agrees with me: ". . . do nothing. This may seem to fly in the face of reason . . . (but) this is great news for those of us who are saving for retirement . . . " Never ever forget that when the market drops stocks are on sale. Buy. You are getting a great deal.
The longer you can run your retirement portfolio successfully, the longer your money will last according to the Monte Carlo calculators I have consulted. This one, posted by Vanguard, indicates I am actually much better off today in my 70s than I was more than a decade ago in my early 60s.
My portfolio is almost twice its size today as compared to its size at my retirement. And although I have more funds, these funds do not have to last anywhere near as long. As time passes, it looks more and more like my wife and I will make it through our retirement years without running out of money.
Take a look at the calculator and see what it tells you.
Read the following story. It was published as part of a Canadian bank's presentation explaining investing to newbies.
Meet Lisa… - she is 64 and wants to retire next year. She recently inherited 80 thousand dollars, She has average knowledge of investing and she also has 50 thousand dollars saved in her RSP Lisa runs through these questions before she sets out to create her portfolio…
How much money does she need? And how often does she need it? After going through her budget, she estimates that she needs an extra 500 dollars a month on top of her pension. How long does she need this income? She thinks her lifestyle and budget won't change over the next ten years. How much does she have to invest right now? She will invest the inheritance of 80 thousand dollars, plus the 50 thousand dollars in her RSP.
How much risk can she tolerate? Lisa needs this income because she is retired but she also wants to minimize losses to what she has now. Because of this her risk tolerance is low. What are the implications to her income taxes? Lisa is also in a low-income tax bracket. She decides that the amount of money she receives from her investments is more important than how the income is taxed.
Since her risk tolerance is low, she rules out investing in stocks for dividends. She decides that she will focus on different bond and cash products instead. This income investment strategy may be ideal for Lisa . . .
Did you read the bank-posted story and say, "Whoa!" This lady needs $500 a month or $6000 a year. She has some $130,000 in cash. She could divide her investment among six stocks and keep $10,000 in cash to get her past the rough spots.
She could easily make 5.0% in dividends or $6000 in cash. This just gets her by. Bonds and GICs are clearly out. Stock ownership is the only way for Lisa to go. The bank must explain this to Lisa, hold her hand during the rough spots and nurse her along. An acceptance of low risk tolerance will not pay the bills.
BCE (Bell) yields 6.08% today.
ENB (Enbridge) yields 8.10% today.
CM (CIBC) yields 5.29% today.
EMA (Emera) yields 4.73% today.
T (Telus) yields 4.87% today.
ALA (AltaGas) 5.34% today.
The above portfolio should give Lisa 5.72% yield on her stock holdings or $6864 annual income or $572 per month. Her $10,000 can be put in a cash account yielding about .75% and her extra cash income from her dividends can be saved, as well. Her cash reserves will grow by about $939 or 9.4% on her $10,000 in cash savings. (Some of this will disappear to pay some income tax fees. The exact amount to be determined by Lisa's tax bracket.)
I posted a take on a Million Dollar Portfolio Demo I set up in response to a brochure from Fisher Investments Canada. You can read that post HERE. I based my piece on the approach I am using to withdraw funds from my own RRIF. I had hoped to hear from Fisher but I didn't.
He writes that spending only the investment income might make some sense for the lucky retirees with six-figure investment income but that is not me. Still, it appears I am not alone in pursing this strategy. Vettese calls the approach "popular" and a crude form of risk management.
Vettese writes the withdrawing-only-the-interest strategy looks better in theory than it does in practice. He makes it very clear this strategy is not one of his preferred approaches. To read about these, buy his book. I did and I consider it money well spent.
That said, I'm sticking with my variation on the withdraw-only-the-interest approach. It has worked for me for more than a decade. Although I have to admit to being worried that one success is not an adquate test. Am I being fooled by randomness? I did retire in 2009, near the depths of an historic stock market retreat. One couldn't ask for a better time to be entering the market with oodles of fresh "buyout" cash.
So, how does my approach work exactly?
My big question is: Can this method, with all RRIF funds in equities except for the approximately 10 percent in cash, survive the ups and downs, especially the downs, corrections and bears, encountered by stock market investors? All I can say is that so far it has worked well for me for eleven years.
I'm optimistic. Why? Check the chart below. Bulls tend to be stronger and longer lasting than bears. If one can ride out the bad times, I believe one can survive the downturns. This is one reason I have a maximum of ten percent or a little more in cash. That cash, plus my dividends, should protect my equity holdings from any forced liquidation. (I have my fingers crossed.)
I need an editor. My original post was riddled with math errors and bull/bear confusion. If you read this post and find an error, please comment. I don't mind criticism. Thank you.
The average bear market decline between1956 and October 31, 2008 was a drop of 28%. The worst decline was 46% between September 2000 and July 2002. It was a bear with a run of a month shy of two full years.
Two bear market tied for the weakest bear market position with falls of only 17%. One lasted only seven months and the other lasted eight. But, these two were not close to the shortest bear markets. That achievement belongs to a three month long bear market that ran from August to October of 1987. It was short but the decline hit 31%.
A bear market is inevitably followed by a bull market. The best bull (before our recent record run) ran for 48 months from December 1976 to November 1980 and reached a gain of 161%. The November 1990 to April 1998 bull had a gain that was almost as good at 160% but it took 90 months to hit this peak. One can take comfort in the knowledge that the average bull market sports an impressive gain of 79%.
If you play with the numbers you will find that a few bad, deep bears interspersed with weak bulls could leave one with a severely weakened portfolio. The whole success of the portfolio would come down to the dividends. If a lot of the dividends got reduced, one could be in serious trouble. But, many of the stocks in my million dollar portfolio demo are famous for weathering bad bears without cutting the dividends.
The three longest bear markets in Canada lasted 23, 19 and 17 months. Not a one lasted even two full years! Bears tend to be on the short side. On the other hand, the longest bull markets in Canada went for 90, 64 and 48 months. The three shortest bull markets went on for 5, 16 and 18 and 18 and 18 months. Yes, there were three bulls of the same duration: 18 months. Timewise, bulls tend to outlast bears. Bulls historically have had more staying power.
I cannot tell the future. No one can. But, it is reasonable to believe that there is a fair chance a million dollar portfolio with a yield approaching five percent would last a person through their retirement, no matter how long they lived.
My Million Dollar Portfolio Demo has about $60,000 in cash. That cash is unaffected by bear declines. Only the equity portion of the portfolio suffers from the bear drop. The cash holds its value and even grows a little thanks to dividends.
That cash, when considered in tandem with the dividend income, should guarantee, well pretty much guarantee, that no equities would face fire-sale liquidations. That small amount of cash in a million dollar portfolio plays an important role that is all out of proportion to its small value.
Bull and Bear Markets in Canada since 1956
It is late November. It is time for me to withdraw all the cash dividends earned in 2020 by my TFSA. I have adequate cash in my account to withdraw in advance any dividends being paid in December.
I don't like to make my last withdrawal in December. Although this is allowed, I prefer to keep December as a buffer between the last withdrawal of 2020 and the beginning of the new, fresh year of 2021.
If I don't need the money now, why make the withdrawal now? Why not wait until 2021? The money withdrawn in one year from a TFSA can be returned, recontributed, to the plan the following year. The withdrawal from one year become additional contribution headroom in the following year. It augments the $6000 of headroom added this Jan. 1st following government rules.
I want as much contribution headroom as possible to facilitate the maximum in-kind transfer from my RRIF to my TFSA. Any over-flow that I am unable to transfer to my TFSA goes to my non-registered account.
Income tax must be paid on the in-kind withdrawal but as the amount transferred meets the minimum withdrawal criteria, there is no withholding tax. The tax itself does not become due until the following year when the tax must be paid in full.
I think my posts discussing how best to withdraw cash-to-live from a RRIF in retirement are my best posts thus far. They certainly have attracted more attention than usual. The most popular one is the post looking at how much can safely be withdrawn from a RRIF.
I'm running a demo portfolio based loosely on my own portfolio. The big difference is in total investment. I'm not a millionaire. But, I am withdrawing a full four percent. So far, this withdrawal rate has worked for me for eleven years and now we'll see if the magic will come through again. So far so good, but a month is hardly enough time to make a firm judgment.
